MAT HUMPHREY: COMMERCIAL DIRECTOR
Mat Humphrey is a commercial director working at
Film Graphics Productions in Sydney. He has been directing ads for
almost twenty years. His clients have included Vegemite, Listerine,
Nissan, CBA, Ford, the Land Transport Authority and Brink’s Security
in the US. He has also won numerous international awards, including a
Bronze Lion at Cannes and a silver and a bronze Cleo in the US. AUSUS
magazine spoke to Mat about his transition into commercial directing,
working in America, and why he likes the business of advertising.
Q: How did your career begin?
I started off directing low end commercials and
then moved into industrial training films that were predominantly drama
based. I was at a bit of a cross road. I didn’t know whether I wanted
to get into drama direction or commercial direction. But I really
enjoyed the commercials so I thought I’d try to direct more top end
spots. A lot of commercial directors just do this till they can get a
feature up, but for me I really like advertising. I like the little
stories. A good thirty second or one minute script can be really clever,
but also really challenging. I probably don’t have the attention span
to deal with anything longer anyway!
Q: The budgets for commercials are also a lot
higher than many people realize.
Yes. However, the budgets here aren’t obviously
as large as the budgets in America and that just purely comes down to
the prospective audience. Like if an Australian soft drink manufacturer
wants to get on air here in a prime spot their potential audience is
only the people who watch television in Australia. But in America they
can justify spending a hell of a lot more money because a hell of a lot
more people are going to see it. And added to that, if it’s a multi
national company like, say Coca Cola, the chances are they’ll run it
over here as well. The rules have changed now so they can play more
American commercials here. That’s why it’s important for me to get
more work in the US.
Q: Are you affected by the free trade agreement?
It affects Australian drama more. It’s a lot
easier for a channel to buy say, ‘CSI’ or ‘Law & Order’,
than to make Australian programs. While with television commercials, if
you forget about the multi nationals like Coke and Pepsi, local brands
still want to have a local feel to their commercials. Like Vegemite, for
example. Although it’s owned by Phillip Morris in America now, it’s
still seen as an Australian brand and it would be suicidal for them to
run an American commercial for Vegemite. And that goes with other
products too, like car manufacturers. I’ve been doing a lot of car
work lately and we try to give it that local feel because people still
want to buy local. For me as a commercial director there’s pluses and
minuses. If it means it’s easier for me to go and work in America then
great.
Q: Did you study commercial directing?
I actually studied graphic design. But I always
liked film and I used to borrow my friend’s fathers super 8 camera and
we’d go and shoot little animated films. The graphic design was a
little bit too structured and neat. I was a bit of a slob really and I
liked coming up with a good idea and really getting into it, whereas
this was all about presenting on clean white bits of paper and so on so
it probably didn’t suit my personality. It was a pristine kind of
thing. So I left that and thought that maybe I’d become an animator.
But I ended up getting a job at a production company and that was kind
of it. I discovered I really wanted to direct so I started at the bottom
as a production assistant, then an editor’s assistant, then a camera
man’s assistant, then a cameraman and then I became a director. That
was the production side of it, the knowledge of the tools. But I also
wanted to get more knowledge about actors. That’s why, when I had the
opportunity to work for corporate or industrial production houses, where
all their films were like little soaps, I took it. It might be about
selling insurance but it’d be like an eight minute film and it’d be
two guys walking around a golf course having a casual conversation about
insurance or the changes at work or something. These training films were
a lot of fun because we’d get to shoot and edit a lot of material so
it was it was like I was doing blocks of drama. I miss that a little bit
because in television commercials there’s so much to tell in thirty
seconds that normally you know exactly what you need to get from that
actor in that two seconds for the story to work. I know that can get
frustrating for actors because they can give so much more but I have to
say ‘…you know what? I just need this. I just need you to look at
him and smile’. In that two seconds this is the information that I
have to give the audience. In a longer form I could tell the actor to do
whatever he likes and I could just pick the bits that I think work.
Q: So you basically worked your way up to
directing?
Yes. Really lucky I guess. I think when I got into
corporate industrial film’s they’d just had a really big kick along.
Particularly in Australia because large corporations had just discovered
that they could make a film to teach employees or to promote themselves.
Basically, using film as a communication tool to clients or to staff. No
one had really thought of it before but then it got a push start with
the advent of video because video made it cheaper. As soon as news went
to beta cam there was a lot of beta cams around and cameramen saying
‘…hey, I got a camera. I can shoot something for you’. So people
could make broadcast quality productions quite economically. Then once
the industry had started people began wanting better quality and in the
end we were shooting lots of projects on film. They’d sort of been
educated. They needed to understand that they could afford it. Once
they’d done a few things and it had worked for them, whether that be
getting clients or showing someone how to put something together, they
soon realized it was effective so they started to think that if they
spent more money it might work even better.
Q: Is the corporate industrial scene still
happening?
I don’t think it’s as good as it used to be
because of the internet. For example, in the past, if I wanted to find
out information about working in America I’d ring up the relevant
people and they’d send out a video that would tell me how to do that.
Now I’d just do a search on the web.
Q: Will there be a time where films are made
exclusively for the internet?
Sure. No question. It’s just a matter of time. I
think a lot of people are scared of that, but I sort of embrace it
because I did longer form communication. I imagine that that’s the way
my career might go. An example of it now is the BMW films. And because
they’re not being broadcast they can break rules. Car advertising now
has a whole lot of rules. You can’t show the car going fast. You
can’t show it being used in an aggressive way. A lot of people used to
get around it by claiming it was all just fantasy, just make believe.
But you can’t use that as an excuse anymore. Now that’s not to say
that we have to have those things in television commercials, but
sometimes you have to think about why people want to buy a car.
Particularly when it’s a sports car. So they want to show performance.
So BMW made these films and put them on the internet. I think that’s
an area I’d like to get into.
Q: How would you establish yourself in that
area?
I’m not quite sure. I know an interesting thing
happened recently where a production company, like Film Graphics where I
work, actually dealt directly with the client, not the advertising
agency, to shoot some stuff in America. A lot of people stood up and
took notice of that because in some ways it’s like biting off the hand
that feeds us because the advertising agency gives us the script. Pepsi
goes to the advertising agency who will say ‘…hey, we want Mat
Humphrey to direct it’. So it was interesting that the client skipped
that step. I believe that when the internet films start getting a kick
along advertising agencies will still be involved but realistically the
longer the film becomes then there’s more things the client will want
in that film. So I guess that’s probably the future. That clients come
directly to production companies. I imagine that someone like BMW will
have their own television station on the net. They’ll be streaming
films twenty four hours a day. It’s really not that far away. In fact,
I think Ford in Melbourne does this already. They have a live web site
where they show Ford technicians fixing cars. It’s like their own
little television station.
Q: Do you think that will create work for
actors?
I think it will. A lot of the money that went out
of the corporate videos went into setting up informative websites. Now
because you can have films on those websites they’ll start to use
training films on there. And because they have the potential to have
basically their own television station they’ll want product. Every
manufacturer can have their own website and as long as they make it
interesting I think people will watch it. Like a car manufacturer might
run highlights of the motor racing season, or you can click on a link
and look at the technical aspects of the car. The potential is huge. Any
product that a consumer needs information on could have a website. Then
there’s the potential for products you don’t need information on
sponsoring these sites. Fingers crossed that they’ll have quality
rather than quantity. And if you have to spend the time downloading the
films they better be good!
Q: How long have you been doing this, Mat?
I turned forty this year and I directed my first
commercial when I was twenty two. I do think, particularly when
there’s a story involved, that experience really helps. Because
you’ve kind of done that. You know what’s going to work and what’s
going to communicate. But when it’s a look or a cool or hip type of
commercial the young guys can do that really well. I’d like to be
known as a good drama director that can tell stories. It’s pretty rare
that a project comes to me these days and I feel like its something
I’ve never done before.
Q: How many commercials have you shot?
I don’t know. Hundreds. A thousand. When I first
started I was just churning them out because they were cheap retail
spots. I was probably doing eight to ten a month. But now, if I do ten
commercials a year I’m happy. Normally it’s about six to eight
because each one of those is about a month’s work. Sometimes even
more, depending if there’s a lot of post production. And things are
quiet in Australia between about November and February.
Q: Do you have a favorite commercial you’ve
directed?
There’s a commercial I did years ago. It’s one
of the first commercial’s I did after doing training films. It was
about driver fatigue. It ran all around Australia and I’d say why
it’s my favorite is because it had the most amazing impact. It just
blew everyone away. It was a guy in a combi van and he’d just picked
up his girlfriend. They were going away for the weekend but he falls
asleep at the wheel and runs into a truck. And it was so simple and so
graphic. And I was really proud of it. Not because I took risks or
anything but because it was such a big client and they took a risk on
me. I was a bit nervous. I was confident in what I was trying to do but
do no one else had really done this before. Normally in the lead up to
an accident it’s the classic Hollywood scenario. Foot on the break.
Close up on the eyes ‘…oh my god’. I didn’t want to do that. I
just wanted it to be bang. No warning. It just happens. And that’s the
way I told the story. I looked at a lot of Hitchcock’s stuff. How to
build tension. To foreshadow that something is going to happen but then
let the audience think that it’s over and they’ve made it and
it’ll be okay. But just at that moment it’s all over. It won a lot
of awards. It won the Lion at Cannes. It’s about twelve years old
Q: Have you won many awards?
I’ve been pretty lucky in that I consistently do
well in international awards, particularly for direction. I’ve won a couple of Cleos’s in America. I got a silver
one year and a bronze the next. I’m fortunate enough to attract
commercials that have a bit of substance. But at the moment, for
example, I’m just doing car commercial’s and they often don’t have
too much dialogue in them which is a bit of a shame. But I think the
best publicity for a commercial director is not the awards. It’s
having your work on air. Because ultimately that’s what people talk
about. The awards don’t really help you get work. The only people that
talk about awards are the people that win them. It’s good for me in
the US because it helps me get a work visa. Reactor Films can justify
bringing me out because I’ve won international awards.
Q: How did your commercial work in the US come
about?
Basically the reps over there showed my reel to the
agency and they liked it so they contacted Reactor Films and organized a
conference call. We just chatted about the script and we pitched a
couple of ideas. Then we negotiated a price on it and my producer and I
went over and did it. It was amazing. I mean we’ve got great crews
here but everything is just so much bigger over there. We probably had
twice the amount of people working on the job.
Q: What is the A to Z process of making a
commercial in Australia?
Basically the agency has the idea. They then get in
a bunch of directors reels from probably three or four production
companies and find the directors they want to work with. They’ll
usually choose three directors and from that they’ll send a script to
them or their producers. Normally then there’s either a meeting or a
conference call with the ‘creatives’ and I’ll ask them what
they’re thinking. Often they’ll have a scene in a film they like, or
a still that they’ve thought of or it might even be an ad. Or I might
suggest something. From that I’ll do a written treatment and maybe
show them some visual references. That might involve some scenes from a
film or some stills. I’ll spend a lot of time and effort on that
because ultimately that’s what wins the job. And if they like the
treatment they’ll show it to their client who has to like it as well.
Part of that is also a quote. Normally what happens is that they’ll
get a couple of different tiers of directors. Out of the three directors
they might have someone they really like but they think they can’t
afford. Someone who would also do a good job but is a bit cheaper and
someone who they could fall back on if these guys are too expensive. So
money makes a big difference. There’s a lot of to and fro about it.
This all takes about a week. Talking to people. Maybe looking at some
locations. If they award the job to us it normally takes about another
two weeks before we start shooting. Then it’s usually a two day shoot.
Then maybe up to a week editing it. Until it’s approved by the client.
And then up to another week finishing off the post production. We’ll
go to a post production house and we’ll grade the film and do the
special effects and then we’ll finish the music and the sound. So
it’s about a month. Sometimes longer depending on what’s involved.
And the final very important stage is we take them out to lunch!
Q: It’s a different process in the US, isn’t
it?
Yeh. You just shoot it and you walk away. I think
their finished result would be a lot closer to what the director had in
mind if he saw the whole process through. Traditionally over here it’s
the voice overs that are handled by the advertising agency. I think
it’s because they do a lot of radio ads and they’re used to that
side of it.
Q: What is the budget of the commercials you
shoot?
If it’s four hundred thousand then that’s good.
But a lot of this is contingency money. It’s different to a film in
that in a film if you miss a shot then that can be okay because it’s
usually about the story and the performances. But in a commercial you
can’t afford to miss a thing. If it’s a car commercial then that car
has to look the best it ever has. And if it rains you have to reschedule
or use blue screen. And that all costs money.
Q: How do you find the actors?
Through a casting agency. Toni Higgenbotham does
most of my casting. But I do like to move around and try different
casting agents, depending on the commercial. It’s basically my call
who to cast but sometimes the client will ask me to keep looking. It’s
funny. I was just looking at a commercial I did recently and I think the
campaign will end because the actor wasn’t that good. It probably
would have been a really sustainable campaign if they’d listened to my
original choice. When I cast an actor the first thing is that I’ve got
to like them. There’s a heap of pressure on a commercial shoot and you
want dealing with the actor to be the easiest part. You want it to be
like asking a friend to do something. And the other thing is that
they’ve just got to be the person that I had in mind. I don’t often
push actors to be something else. We all know actors can play different
parts but if they come in their looking like the businessman or the
farmer and say the lines the way I imagined then they’ve got the gig.
Q: Is there anything you’d like to have
achieved by the end of your career?
It’s sort of moment by moment. I would like to
give something back to the industry because I do like advertising. I do
like telling stories. I guess it’s trying to be the best I can. I’d
like to do a few more ads like the one I was talking about earlier. I
always like a good idea. A good story.