MARK WOLPER...PRODUCER.
Mark
Wolper recently returned to Los Angeles from Melbourne, Australia, where
he spent seven months as executive producer on 'Evil Never Dies' and the
remake of 'Salem's Lot'. He has also worked as an executive producer on
mini series such as 'The Mists of Avalon', 'To Serve and Protect' and 'A
Will of their Own'. AUSUS Magazine spoke to Mark about the various
classifications of producers, shooting in Australia, and the remaking of
'Salem's Lot'.
Q:
Where do you come from Mark?
I was
born in Santa Monica, California, and raised in Greece. My mother and
father had gotten divorced and my mother married a Greek so her and us
three kids all migrated there. I was there for twelve years and then
moved back to the U.S.A. to go to college. I've been here now since
1979.
Q:
What did you do before you became a producer?
I went
to college here at the University of Southern California (USC) and while
studying film, taking night classes, I was working during the day as a
runner, production assistant, any job I could get in the business,
because I figured I didn't want to graduate after four years and be
starting out new making contacts. I wanted to be making contacts while I
was going to school.
Q:
What was your first job as a producer?
My first producing job was on a show called 'Uncle
Tom's Cabin', which was previously a play and a book. I was the
associate producer. I was actually the location manager but the producer
got fired because the executive producer happened to be so angry with
him that one day, right in the middle of the cameras rolling, he walked
up to him directly in front of the cameras and the actors and said '...goddamit,
you're fired!' And then he said '...from now on'...and he looked around
and then he pointed at me...'from now on you're the producer'. That's
how I got my first producing job. It actually wasn't as haphazard as
that. I found out later that he'd already decided he wanted me to be the
producer. He wasn't looking around to pick someone out. He was looking
around to find me. So that was my first producing job and then I worked
for many years as an independent producer. Later, about twenty years
ago, I did a project for Warner Brothers. It was the Betty Ford story.
The movie got an Emmy award nomination for best film and Gena Rowland's
won best actress. My first film for Warner Brothers did so well I
figured I'd stay here. Q: You also worked on 'The Thorn Birds'? I did. I
was the associate producer on that. The first Thorn Birds shot in the
U.S., in Simi Valley and also in Hawaii. The second one was called 'The
Missing Years'. When we did the original we didn't do the whole book, we
only did three quarters of it. So about eight years later we went back
and did the rest. The first one was a twelve hour mini series with
Rachel Ward, Bryan Brown and Richard Chamberlain. It was the show that
Bryan and Rachel met on and started having an affair. The second one was
a six hour mini series. Rachel didn't want to come back so we used
another actress, Amanda Donohue, to play that role. It was shot in 1995.
Q: Can you clarify what a producer does?
A pretty simple way to describe
it is that a producers job is to do whatever is necessary to get the
show financed, made, sold and successful. Whatever it takes. That's why
there's so many producer titles. Because it often takes many, many
people to get that process to happen. In the television world the
executive producer or show runner is the king. In the feature film
world, the theatrical world, the guy who's called just 'producer' is
king. Why it ended up that the two mediums kind of got the words
different I don't know. But the producer in features is exactly the same
as the executive producer in TV.
Q: What about other levels of 'producers'?
The
line producer is in charge of the production period. Then, in both TV
and film, there's the associate producer who's usually responsible for
the whole post production period. Also, often in feature films there's
the executive producer who's usually the person who got the rights, or
got the book or the script, but couldn't quite get it made because he
wasn't powerful enough. He's in charge of pre production and getting it
sold. The producer oversees all these people...in film. Finally, in
film, there is also the producer who is either the guy who found the
property and, or, will help to get the property sold.
Q: Why are so many films shooting in Australia
these days?
The
reason it was happening in Australia, and unfortunately that's about to
change a little, is because the exchange rate is so good. When I went to
Australia my money was basically doubled. Unfortunately, while I was in
Melbourne the exchange rate lessened for us as a result of the war. The
primary reasons I, or any producer will shoot in another country is one,
a good exchange rate, and two, the quality and depth of the crews that
exist there. By the depth I mean that if there are five really good
crews in Australia, but there are already seven movies shooting there,
then you don't want to go there because the good crews are probably
already being used. That's why a lot of filming goes on in Canada, which
probably has forty good crews and a good exchange rate. So it can be
easier to go to Canada. But it's almost better now to shoot in the U.S.
Another factor, however, is that Americans like going to Australia. If I
say to an important director or actor that we're going to go and shoot
in Bulgaria, they say '...oh, I don't know'. But if I tell them we're
going to the Gold Coast they're much more likely to accept. So it's also
easier for us to get people there. And there's a very good talent pool
there too. If I go shoot in Bulgaria I've got to bring in a lot more of
the cast, put them up, pay per diems and so on. But in Australia I don't
have to do that.
Q: Is
there a law regarding the percentage of Australian actors you have to
use?
Australia
has a very soft policy on this. However, there are certain tax breaks
and funds that are available to us. And each one of these 'deals' does
have certain requirements. If I have all my money and I don't need any
money from Australia I can bring as many people as I want. But if I want
to access some of those funds then I need to meet those requirements.
Q:
What was the ratio of Australian to American actors in 'Salem's Lot'?
Well
in 'Salem's Lot' I brought seven actors over from the U.S. and we hired
about sixty five to seventy locals. Some of them were pretty big parts,
maybe about ten or so.
Q: How
involved do you get in the casting process?
Pretty involved. In the TV business the producer is
very involved. In the feature business he's less involved, the director
does more of it. TV is a producers medium and film is a director's
medium. I go to the call backs. We shot 'Salem's Lot' in Melbourne but
as many of the actor's were in Sydney we'd look at tape on them and then
if we liked the tape we'd fly them down for a face to face. We used
Maura Fay casting in Melbourne.
Q:
What did you like about the Australian actors?
The
Australian actors were great. They've all gotten to a point now where
they can use the American accent. Even the young kids are good at it
because they've all seen so much American TV now they know how to do it.
The hardest thing, actually, is the older, established actors. They
don't seem to be as willing or as able to do it. Sometimes we'll have to
bring someone in from the U.S. to play those older character parts.
Q: Is
there a dialect coach on set?
Yes. But sometimes we'll still have to re voice
them later in post. We have a coach on set every single day. Any time
there was an Australian actor, even if they were good at the accent,
we'd have a coach tracking every single word.
Q: Why
did you remake 'Salem's Lot'?
Well
Stephen King always does very, very well...always. I was looking at
titles of his. In particular I was looking at Stephen King's that were
made a long time ago and were really bad and 'Salem's Lot' fell into
that category. Actually not that it was really bad. It was quite
successful when it came out, but it's become really dated. So I said
let's do an updated version of it because it was done so long ago. Any
time ten or fifteen years passes on a show you can try making it again
because the audience has all sort of grown up and moved on. I don't know
why people give producers and director's and studios grief for remaking
films. It's a re-interpretation. What would happen if 'My Fair Lady' or
'Cats' or 'The King and I' were only made once. In theater you bring it
back to life again with new nuances, new changes, new actors and a new
way of approaching it. Why is that so acceptable in theater but whenever
it's done in film you get criticized. It's an opportunity for a director
to re invent a property again.
Q:
Where in Melbourne did you shoot 'Salem's Lot'?
All
over. A lot on the outskirts. We were trying to make it look like New
England. Primarily we shot on some stages in St.Albans, an old ice cream
factory we had converted for the shoot.
Q: So what's next?
I just started on a new production called 'Helter
Skelter', about Charles Manson. That's all shooting here in LA. I Might
go to Australia next on a big mini series for NBC called 'The Witching
Hour'.
Q: So
if you were to look back on your career at age seventy five what would
you want people to say about it?
That I
only worked hard enough to make a living so that I could spend time with
my family. That I didn't work too hard.