THE AUSTRALIAN
CONNECTION: EVE BRANDSTEIN...LOS ANGELES CASTING DIRECTOR.
Eve
Brandstein is a casting director who has been working in Los Angeles for
over twenty years. Her credits include the television series 'Doc',
'Mysterious Ways', 'Sue Thomas: FB Eye', and the 1984 hit mockumentary,
Rob Reiner's 'This is Spinal Tap'. She has also cast two series shot in
Australia, 'Beastmaster' and 'Ponderosa'. AUSUS Magazine spoke to Eve
about casting Australian productions, auditions for 'Beastmaster', and
her plans for the future.
Q: How did you become a
casting director?
I
didn't come out here to be a casting director. I'm a transplant from New
York via Chekoslovakia. I came out here to be a film maker and study at
the American Film Institute. I also wanted to see what LA was like. I
actually had no interest in television. I'd been a theater director in
New York. When I got here I needed a job. Eventually I got one, at
Norman Lear's company, Tandem Productions. It was a six week assignment
but, literally, the woman who was the head of casting, two days after I
got there, quit and recommended me for her job. I was bewildered. Within
a half an hour I was in Norman Lear's office with him and the production
team, and I was told '...take over'. And I thought, this is really a
Hollywood story. The show was very unique and exciting, very outside the
box. It was a spin off of 'The Mary Hartman' show called 'Fernwood 2
Nite'. It was renamed 'America 2 Nite' in it's second season. It was a
very, very clever format, very tongue in cheek, very hip.It was a spoof
on talk shows. Very quickly I ended up seeing tons of actors. I had to
be a quick study on the whole industry and all the ways that television
is done, because I knew nothing. We'd do production on six to ten shows
a week. It was huge. We were knocking them out daily. Eventually I just
fell in love with television.
Q: How did you get to
cast 'Beastmaster'?
Beastmaster
came about because I was working for a company named 'Alliance', which
has since been renamed 'Alliance Atlantis'. That was their project and
they asked me to cast it because I was the head of casting for the U.S.
This was one of those projects that needed a big talent search to find a
star. It was a Canadian - Australian co-production.
Q:
How did you find the Australian lead, Daniel Goddard?
He
was a teenage soap star in Australia but had lived in LA for the past
five years, trying to find work. The minute he walked in, as they say, I
knew it was him. And then when he turned out to be Australian that was
really incredible because they could keep it a pure Canadian -
Australian content picture. We did, however, use some American guest
stars.
Q:
What accent did he audition with?
He used American I
guess. But it's not a verbal role. It was more of a physical role and
the accent was not really an issue. But because it was set in a time
before time it was kind of a more romantic type of voice, kind of North
American. Even the Australian actors who were hired down there were
asked to speak like this.
Q: What did the audition process involve?
Well
there was a script and there were lines and there was a physicalization
of those lines which had something to do with experiencing nature. Each
person had to show that they were sensitized to the surroundings. A
little bit of mime. It was a very physical role so we needed somebody
who was well built, attractive. A lot of the actors came dressed so we
could see their body. Daniel took off his shirt at the audition. He had
that kind of comfort. But he also knew where the emotional life of the
character was. He really got it. He demonstrated a sensitivity,
physically, to the nature of the character. He set up the world so you
could sort of be with him. You could see him hearing nature. He was very
zen like in his performance. He read for me twice. Then he came back for
the producer who was really wild about him. In that reading there were
some writers in the room. The we had another call back with some
executives. Then we did a testing with Daniel and two other actors that
we were considering. We did this at a studio with costumes and make up
and with the director. Those tapes were studied for a day or two and
then we made our decision. The secondary lead also had to be Australian
or Canadian. We ended up with someone from Australia. All the audition
tapes from overseas were sent here. We also looked at a lot of actors in
Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. The female lead ended up being Canadian
and, again, when she walked in, she was it.
Q: What contracts were
negotiated?
You
negotiate everything at this point. From the pilot to first year, all
shows, and then up to five years. Some times you negotiate up to seven
years. They bump up the fees each year. Sometimes ownership will kick in
after a few years. Or, if you have a hit show, everybody comes back to
the table.
Q:
Was the Australian side involved in this process in the U.S?
One
of the partnerships in the production was a Canadian - Australian
production, Coote Hayes. Jeff Hayes was in town for the auditions and he
would send the audition tapes back to his partner to look at. Then Jeff
left town after casting was complete and Steve Feke began as the writer
and show runner. He ran the show out of LA with a team of writers here
and went over from time to time, Melbourne, I think it was. The show
eventually became an Australian production. After about six months it
became mainly local casting. I was able to send over a few stunt actors,
including Grace Jones who was in Europe at the time.
Q: Why is production
booming in Australia?
The
ability to make production happen for the right price is still very
possible as well as being able to work in a community they can
understand. You know, the language is the same and the culture isn't
radically different. And people like going there. It's also attractive
to go to Canada but I think the prices are now better down there. And
very good actors, some of the best.
Q: Why do you think
Australian actors are so popular these days?
I
think it has something to do with the fact that the film makers started
to happen over there. Once you have film makers you can start getting
the films out. The talent is then noticed. If you go back to when Mel
Gibson first appeared it had to do with the great film makers who
introduced us to them, such as in 'Gallipoli'. 'Shine', with Geoffrey
Rush, is another good example. When the movies became popular the actors
became popular. The actors are then also able to perceive themselves
outside the local market. And I think the training there is very good. I
think the Australian actors are so interesting. There's something very
unique and individual about them. There's a sense of quiet truth about
their work as well as there being something more secretive about them, a
presence. There's a dedication and commitment to their work which you
don't really see that often here. For them it's a calling. For many
actors here they seem to look at it as a career choice, a way to get
rich and famous. Particularly with all these reality shows that exist
now.
Q: How did 'Ponderosa'
come about?
I was working at Pax TV
and they decided they wanted to do it. I was assigned to the casting. We
took over five Americans for the show. I'd become pretty knowledgeable
about co productions and casting their low budget productions. The
actors make less money working overseas but the contracts are usually
longer.
Q: Tell me about
bringing over the Australian actor, Marcus Graham.
It
was for 'Sins of the City' on USA cable. We'd done a search that had
gone pretty far and wide and eventually we started talking about
Australian actors for the role. We needed someone like Steve McQueen,
someone original. We had actors put on tape and we found Marcus just so
interesting. It was a dark show and he'd played this type of part
before. He was the only actor we brought over the role. We took him
straight to the studio. He was very present, very charismatic.
Q:
What do you look for when an actor auditions for you?
Whether
or not they're right for the part. Even if they don't get the reading
right, if I get a sense that they're what the producer is looking for
then I'll give them some direction and try to get them closer to that.
Sometimes if someone has done an incredible reading, but they're not
physically right for the part, I'll bring them back to meet the
producers. I look for an exciting performance. I prefer someone to do
something I can remember that's really fresh, over sort of thinking
they're hitting every note the way it was written. Somebody who tries to
find that extra piece of behavior. To go beyond what's on the page.
Q:
What you like you people to say about you at the end of your career?
Oh
god! That I was honorable, honest, creative. Eventually I want to be on
the road doing travel writing...in Australia!